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- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 04:30:15 PDT
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #456
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- Ham-Policy Digest Wed, 21 Sep 94 Volume 94 : Issue 456
-
- Today's Topics:
- 5 wpm, you can too!
- any ARRL internet sites?
- Get Over It
-
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- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 23:00:32 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: 5 wpm, you can too!
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- John Mollan - Harm <jmollan@egreen.iclnet.org> writes:
-
- >When it gets right down to it, If you's only put the time that has been
- >spent fussin' and fightin' into learning the code, there would be nothing
- >left to argue about.
-
- I have tried, off and on, for over twenty years. The characters do not sink
- in worth a darn.
-
- >I have taught many novice classes over my 30 years as a ham and have come
- >to the conclusion that any 5 year old (who can read) who spends 5 hours a
- >week can learn code at 5 words per minute in 5 weeks.
-
- Unless you can get into the other person's head, you are absolutely
- unqualified to make such a claim about anyone except yourself.
-
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- Date: 21 Sep 1994 08:00:10 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: any ARRL internet sites?
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- Are there any ARRL internet addresses?
- Jack, W6DBV
-
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- Date: 20 Sep 1994 12:46:46 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!pstc3!md@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Get Over It
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Jm3RX38.edellers@delphi.com>,
- Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com> writes:
-
- > Bad argument. VHF and higher spectrum is fundamentally different from HF
- > spectrum in its characteristics and therefore in its usefulness for different
- > applications. You can't communicate from Massachusetts to Malaysia on 2m
- > simplex any more than you could set up a reliable repeater on 20m.
-
- All hams know from the start what the no-code license offers. If they
- want to engage in something that requires HF access, they have to learn the
- code. I have zero sympathy for someone who gets a no-clue license and then
- starts whining about HF access.
-
-
- > You're forgetting that not everyone is capable of learning every subject.
- > Some are good at math, some at understanding theory, some are proficient in
- > languages, and some are expert at code. There are far too many of us who are
- > not "handicapped" in any real sense but who simply have extreme difficulty in
- > this one area for your "shut up and learn it" argument to hold any water.
-
- So, according to your logic, we should also offer a theoryless license in
- amateur radio too since some people may not be able to understand the
- theory.
-
-
- MD
-
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- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 22:48:54 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <5C3w3Vp.brunelli_pc@delphi.com>, <Jm3RX38.edellers@delphi.com>, <35mljm$oqu@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>รข
- Subject : Re: Get Over It
-
- Michael P. Deignan <md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu> writes:
-
- >All hams know from the start what the no-code license offers. If they
- >want to engage in something that requires HF access, they have to learn the
- >code. I have zero sympathy for someone who gets a no-clue license and then
- >starts whining about HF access.
-
- Yet another slur. The fact that the Technician Class license no longer requires
- a code test is not relevant to the question of whether or not code should be
- required for HF access.
-
- >So, according to your logic, we should also offer a theoryless license in
- >amateur radio too since some people may not be able to understand the
- >theory.
-
- There's a big difference between code and theory/regulations/practice. The
- first is only needed if one wants to use code; the second is needed regardless
- of mode. A better comparison would be to a (hypothetical) requirement that
- someone wanting a driver's license show proficiency in riding a motorcycle.
-
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